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    • September 7, 2013 at 11:03 am #21161
      dwagman
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        Casey

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        Dan

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        are like a pilot who goes onto a ship without rudder or
        compass and never has any certainty to where he is going.
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      • September 8, 2013 at 5:50 pm #21164
        Al Myers
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          Just looking at that photo makes me want to go to the gym and do a forearm workout!!! Thanks for including that pic Dan.

          Casey Viator was one of the few that have unreal genetics to grow lean muscle mass. Regardless of how else he may have been aided, very few could “pack on the pounds” of muscle like that from the Colorado Experiment. I have cattle clients that wished their fat steers gained like that. I know he had been injured at work before this “experiment” and suffered a serious hand injury along with a bad reaction to an anti-tetanus shot, which lead to a dramatic muscle loss before the study. This allowed some of the muscle mass to be regained more quickly. (Dan, and I believe there have been scientific studies that have looked at muscle hypertrophy following periods of atrophy? Am I right here?)

          Here’s something I have experienced myself, that occurred after one of my bicep ruptures. The period of having a cast on my arm for two months resulted in my upper arm atrophying four inches. Once I resumed training my arm grew exactly one inch per month for 4 months (original size), but then stopped getting bigger despite my training was the same. I know this was not in 28 days like the Colorado Experiment, but still surprised me. I could literally FEEL my arm increasing in size following every training session. I thought it would take much longer since I had trained for years to build the muscle I had previously. I also went to a bench press meet 6 months to the day following the surgery, and set a personal record in the bench at the time. It goes to show that a temporary set back might not derail your long term progress!!!

        • September 9, 2013 at 10:04 am #21163
          dwagman
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            (Dan, and I believe there have been scientific studies that have looked at muscle hypertrophy following periods of atrophy? Am I right here?)

            Yes, Al, indeed they have. As a matter of fact, a lot of the research supplement companies cite as being proof that their product will enhance muscle strength and size is based on such research. Typically, the subjects had undergone some type of surgery and scientists wanted to know whether this or that supplement might decrease the amount of atrophy they might otherwise experience. And often times the supplement would indeed decrease the amount of atrophy to a significant extent. And then the supplement manufacturer(s) jump on that and sell their product as one that “will build muscle, strength, and size.” Of course they don’t tell you that the subjects were sedentary post-menopausal obese women, that the supplement was infused intravenously, that the subjects were given HUGE dosages that would equate to taking 10 times that contained in the supplement’s pill or powder, etc., etc., etc.

            Yeah, the supplement industry is an utter and complete joke from that perspective, which doesn’t even scratch the surface regarding all of the supplements that are on the market selling something other than what’s on the label. Talking about flushing something down the toilet…

            Sorry about the rant, but the Colorado Experiment is an equal joke, only that the “research” they conducted held so many methodological flaws that you couldn’t draw any valid or reliable conclusions from it even if you tried…but of course they did. I actually started reading it when I was at Weider and threw it away without completing the read because it was such a joke. And even if they DID use sound research methods to observe, quantify, and analyze Casey’s training, and what they found in Casey to be true, that still doesn’t mean a damn thing to the rest of the weight lifting population. Just because some person survives a plane crash doesn’t mean you need not worry about dying when your plane goes down. Tsssss…..

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            Dan

            For Body Intellect Brochure click here: https://www.icloud.com/keynote/0fcsokZWooW_1B1uZmL1AI5fA#BI-DW

            Those who are enamored of practice without science
            are like a pilot who goes onto a ship without rudder or
            compass and never has any certainty to where he is going.
            Leonardo Da Vinci; 1452-1519

          • September 9, 2013 at 11:35 am #21162
            Thom Van Vleck
            Participant

              Here’s a sort of related question: My Uncle claims the original Nautalis equipment was legit stuff and that all the stuff that came after was a joke. Curious about how others felt about this.

              As for Casey, I have an autographed photo of him in my gym. Found his number, called him up. Discussed doing a story on him for Milo but he wasn’t interested. However, very nice guy.

              Thom Van Vleck
              Jackson Weightlifting Club
              Highland Games athlete and sometimes All-Rounder

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