Al Myers
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Lance – YOU WIN THE PRIZE!!! (details of the prize to be determined at a later date)
The answer is Bench Press feet in the air. The rule was initially written to state “the feet must be off the floor”
The USAWA took this to mean that the feet must be “in the air”, and not touching anything. The IAWAUK took this to mean just “off the floor”, and often used a supporting bench to place the legs on. Obviously this gave some support/added balance to the lift and would make the lift easier.
ET, I’m in agreement with you on this! Plus it can become a difficult task getting both sheets of paper in place, in addition to the uncomfortable “buttcrack” issue. Removing this would then make our rules identical to the IAWAUK rules on this.
Which brings us to the issue of different rules between the USAWA and the IAWAUK on many lifts. As most of you know we do not really have an IAWA rulebook, but rather just follow the IAWAUK rulebook for our IAWA events. This hasn’t always been the case, as in the Clark era IAWA tended to follow the USAWA rules at competitions, especially if they were held in the US or events Clark was at.
A few years ago Steve Gardner and I started looking at ways to unify our two rulebooks. If it was as simple as the Strict Curl (removing the butt paper) for all lifts then that would have been done. However, many of our lifts are so much different in rules that “coming to middle ground” was impossible. I felt it would be practically impossbile without compromising the tradition on how many lifts had been done in the USAWA for many years, and it was a controversy I really didn’t want to get started as I know several would have been opposed to some of the changes. I spent hours pouring over our rule differences, and it would been an overwhelming project. Plus involve alot of compromise between the USAWA and the IAWAUK. Over the past several years the USAWA has brought at least twenty lifts into the same rules as the IAWAUK, done by rule changes made at our National Meeting. In that time the IAWAUK has only brought one lift into compliance with the USAWA rules. (trivia – can you name that lift?)
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Wish I could be there!!! Good luck everyone – get some big lifts!
ET I really have no idea why it is doing this. I’ve looked at the admin stuff to try to figure it out, but with no luck so far. I need someone smarter than me with computers to help out!
BTW this is a blog I wrote many years that is worth rereading if you are interested in age correction. I did this study to form my opinion on the age correction and whether it was fair or not.
As been previously discussed on this forum many time, formulas are far from perfect no matter what formula/adjustments are made.
But this is as good as its gonna get. I have been convinced that even with the added percentages added to older lifters it is not enough to fully correct for the strength loss by time. However, thats the way it should be as the meets overall winners should be the younger, stronger lifters. The corrections really only serve to make it closer.
ET, I totally agree with you on what you’ve said. The USAWA/IAWA will never be popular amongst the mainstream strength crowd.
However, Mr Chaos was pretty much dead wrong when he stated that there is “very little crossever of athletes from the USAWA into other strength sports”. Practically everyone I know in the USAWA started off doing some other type of strength competition.
But gotta say I agree when he said “the USAWA hands out awards like a kindergarten teacher who lives next to a trophy shop”. haha I found that pretty funny, as obviously its directed towards our liberal Award Director!
I’m surprised no one else has comments regarding that article!
Surely someone has to be offended by it!!!
Yes, the OLSA (Odd Lift Strength Association) has been the only all round lifting association that has ever arisen to give the USAWA competition. It only lasted for a few years and was pretty much centered out of only one gym. Interestingly none of the guys in the group ever did any USAWA stuff. Bill used to run their info in the newsletter which had me confused at the time because they had no affiliation with us at all. I’m actually surprised their website is still up because they have not had a competition for over 10 years now!!!
GREAT ARTICLE! So glad to see Aidan get some press.
hahaha Thank you for sharing that ET! I’m glad you found that blog, as I don’t normally go to websites called Chaos and Pain. At first I couldn’t decide whether I should be offended or not by it, but then after rereading it a couple times I found great humor in it. It got a little windy and full of fluff (but then again it referenced Thom Van Vleck LOL) but overall a pretty funny read. Despite being off on several factual points of strength history, his jabs did “hit home” on us on several fronts.
I’m just glad that I have alot of Morlocks as friends.
For sure! That was a great story on Frank by Peter Vuono. For those of you that don’t know, Peter has quite a long resume of writing great stories about weightlifting. I’m constantly encouraging him to contribute blogs to the USAWA website, as he has a wealth of information that he could share. I was so glad to see him send this one in.
Welcome to the forum Jeff! And thanks for sharing those videos.
John is a wealth of information. He also is one who shares his knowledge with others. I sure hope you can make it to a USAWA event sometime. Al
Hi Collin,
Look forward to meeting you this weekend. It will be held at:Denny Habecker
637 North 11th Avenue
Lebanon, PA 17046
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