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I believe there is a difference between support gear and lifting geared. And it may be a fine line that is difficult to identify. However, with the knee wraps, we have alreadycrossed the line into lifting geared, as knee wraps add poundages.

I like the idea of just pulling them off before you lift. That makes more sense in theory than practice though, in my opinion. Because according to our rules, we cannot just pull them down and wear them around uour ankles, yes? Even though that would obviously offer absolutely no aid or support, it would be against the rules. So, you would have to take them off. I cant pull mine over my showes, so I would have to take off my shoes, take off the sleeve, put the shoes back on, lift, take the shoe back off, put the sleeve back on, put the shoe back on, etc, etc, etc. It is a big enough pain in the ass leaning over once in the morning to get my shoes on once.

That being said, I am going for the doctor’s note thing. I’m sure that will be tough to get (LOL)

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[KCSTRONGMAN]

I voted yes, but did so with reservation-that I completely see your point. However, I disagree whole heartedly with the separate record list bit. So, you have used knee sleeves? Have you ever lifted anything with them that you would not have lifted without? Maybe there are types where that would be the case. I have used york and Dino sleeves, and have never gotten a single pound over what I would have done without them. Just like Benching with wrist wraps. Never a single pound over, but it allows me to protect a joint in order to not have to spend the next month rehabbing it. Now, like I said, maybe there are some that would give you weight, and maybe that is something that needs to be researched out before a decision is made, I dont know. And if the knee sleeves thing fails I will not lose a moments sleep over it, I will just train with them, when I feel I need them, and compete without. It wont make any difference, as I will lift the same amount one way or the other, as long as I am healthy.
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[KCSTRONGMAN]

Way to go Chad. I figured someone that would frolick with Al hand in hand on a beach in speedos would think enough of him to do a simple writeup.
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I'm the lyrical Jesse James

[KCSTRONGMAN]

Interesting info, Tom. Thanks for sharing
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I'm the lyrical Jesse James

[KCSTRONGMAN]

All I can say is that the photo and caption were credited to Leslie Myers, and I cannot imagine her making that up
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I'm the lyrical Jesse James

[KCSTRONGMAN]

It is evident that your shame got the better of you and you removed it, but You know the pic, the one of you and Chad frolicking hand in hand on a beach in speedos.
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I'm the lyrical Jesse James

[KCSTRONGMAN]

That was awkward…I am glad it is gone. On the IM forum, Randy Stossen was asking info on USAWA. I was going to post the link to the site, but when I saw that pic I was far too embarrassed for Al and Chad (not to mention ashamed of them) to post it. I am not over the shame and embarrassment, but at least a guy can post a link to the site now
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I'm the lyrical Jesse James

[KCSTRONGMAN]

Email sent, but I am hoping to be there in person
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I'm the lyrical Jesse James

[KCSTRONGMAN]

Wish I could say we would be sending a team, but I wont be ble to do some of those lifts for a few more weeks and everybody else is out of town.
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I'm the lyrical Jesse James

[KCSTRONGMAN]

How was vaca?
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I'm the lyrical Jesse James

[KCSTRONGMAN]

thanks lance
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I'm the lyrical Jesse James

[KCSTRONGMAN]

The day we start lifting necked is the day I bow out.
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I'm the lyrical Jesse James

[KCSTRONGMAN]

From them I take that knee sleeves aren’t really supportive, if so why wear them?

From my experience, Mike, I would say that knee sleeves are supportive in helping protect the joint, just not in allowing you to get extra weight in a lift. Kind of like why we allow wrist wraps. Prevent injury without aiding the lifter to lift more weight than he is capable.
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I'm the lyrical Jesse James

[KCSTRONGMAN]

I just read them (all). Interesting discussion on the knee sleeves. I know I am not nearly as old as some of the aged in our org, so I should not complain too loud (LOL), but I have a number of joints I have ruined or come close to over the years of lifting and wresting. Been having knee issues squatting lately, where it is tough to walk after for a couple days. Threw the sleeves back on and it took care of the knee troubles I was having (the squats felt equally as hard mind you). So lets just say I see where Scott is going with this. I also see where the old timers are coming from and having wrist wraps allowed or knee wraps in the squats is probbaly pushing it. Good topic for debate. And for what it is worth, I definitely thing that lift should have been named the “Tully Bench”.
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I'm the lyrical Jesse James

[KCSTRONGMAN]

Great work guys. Look forward to reading the writeup
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