Hating to Squat, Part II

by Thom Van Vleck

I really appreciated Dan’s article. I’ll name drop a little here myself. I used to train with John Ware. He broke Bill Kazmaier’s total records and O.D. Wilson broke John’s record just weeks later as I recall.  As Dave Glasgow would say, “WHATEVER, TOPPER”.

I have never been a great bencher. I remember maxing out after a year of hard training and getting a 5lb PR.  I went from 360 to 365. It was so disappointing after so much work. A week or so later John Ware was spotting me on a set of 10 on the bench. He made the comment, “Not a single one of those reps looked the same”. His observation cause me to think.

I had no “groove”.  I had been a serious practitioner of the singles, doubles, and triples.  I rarely did more than 5 reps in a set.  What I realized was I was not getting and keeping a “groove”.  My bar path was all over the place as a result.  My solution was to go unconventional and do 10 sets of 10 with a focus on keeping the same bar path on every rep.  I did this for three months.  I then maxed out and I benched 405!  So one year of training had led to 5lbs of progress and 3 months led to 40lbs of progress!

I had fallen into that same trap.  I had not been focused on my form.  Just trying to lift as much weight as possible every set and every rep.  I figured out in that 3 months I got in 1200 reps.  In that year of low rep training I had gotten in maybe a 1000 reps.  I’m not saying 10×10 is the best power routine but I think at the time I needed the reps to reset my groove.  And it worked!  I remember hitting 370, 390, and 405.  I’ve never had a 40 lb PR on any lift before or since.  I was literally jumping for joy!

As a Highland Games thrower I video myself all the time.  Most every throw.  Because I find that over time, no matter how much I try to not let this happen, my form degrades.  I think it’s from trying to throw too hard to feed my ego.  Same goes for the weights.  Feeding my ego led to a degrading in form.

So find that love again, like Dan said!  And if you don’t have an O. D. Wilson or John Ware to check your form then set up a video.

Hating to Squat…No More

By Dan Wagman, Ph.D., CSCS

 

Dan squatting in the good ol' days. Those days are now in the future, too.

Dan squatting in the good ol’ days. Those days are now in the future, too.

Prolog

It’s late 2021 now and I’ve recently been taken back to thoughts and feelings I had training while stationed at Ft. Bragg in the late 80’s. At some point I developed a hard time benching and endured my strength dropping to 425 – with effort – and frustrating the living heck out of me. On one of those benching days, my training partner O.D. Wilson spotted me and gave me a liftoff, which turned into him doing a deadlift to save me and sharing this observation: “Dan, why’s your grip so narrow?” I gave him the stupid look, not knowing what he was talking about. After setting up again and working through things, it became clear to me that over time, for some reason, my grip had migrated inward turning the bench press in to a close-grip bench press. I had no idea how that had happened and set out to correct it immediately. And here we go again…

2021

So here I am, hating the squat like I once hated the bench. I’m weak, my body feels like I’m straining to get out of a straightjacket every time I bend my knees, I’m frustrated, and ready to stop squatting all together. I’m thinking, “Who needs to suffer like this? Training is supposed to be fun. I’ve had it!” And yet I continued to force myself through squat sessions…again and again and again. I reached a point of despair and was but a few ounces away from giving up. Then I finally decided, ”This is the last time I’m squatting.”

It’s difficult for me at times, remembering the principles of science. Training to me is fundamentally a raw, barbaric, testosterone laden activity where the blood drains from my brain in to my muscles…and oh, how good that feels. The consequence is, of course, a less than optimally functioning brain. Just as I was ready to complete the last squat session of my life, a drop of blood somehow entered my brain, a neuron or two fired, and I thought to myself, “Why not take a movie of your squat?” Such a simple thought. Such an easy thing to do. I have my Mac with me in the gym every time I train so that I can crank to some nasty metal and the shelf it rests upon is adjacent to the squat rack. Perfect vantage point for a squat movie…

I hadn’t analyzed my squat in forever and after taking a movie on that day I was disgusted with what I saw. Mind you, there were many more problems than just squatting high…as if that wasn’t bad enough. Exercise science research has determined what the fundamental principles of a proper squat must be and it appeared as though I had violated all of them. How could my squat technique deteriorate by so much, to the point where the movement crushed me, hurt me, sucked the life out of me, and me hating to do it?

2021 and Beyond

Just like my bench press deteriorated decades ago, so did my squat, and unbeknownst to me. As an exercise scientist I have to recognize that there must be a reason this happened. But frankly, I don’t really care about expending too much brain power on trying to figure that out; I want to get the squat back instead.

The main symptom, both times, was an inexplicable loss in strength for the affected lifts. In a properly designed program, that should not occur. So looking at technique can provide clues as to what might be going on. Once I determined technical errors, the solution was clear: start over.

The first thing I did was to stop squatting, albeit, unlike before, not with the intention of never squatting again. Quite the contrary. For much of the summer I didn’t squat at all and found other exercises to maintain some degree of quad strength and muscularity. I was basically wiping the squat hard drive clean. Then, at the beginning of fall I started to squat again, but started from scratch. I started to populate the hard drive with new data, the proper-squat sorta data. Basically I’m forcing my body to relearn the movement. And if you’re curious as to what that looks like, let’s just say that I’m benching way more than what I’m squatting.

Epilog

I’m writing this just after getting done squatting…less than bench weight and yet I feel GREAT. My mood is positive, I’m excited about squat days, and I’m motivated, driven even, to make improvements with every week. Proper technique is the main goal; squatting what I can bench—and eventually more—comes secondary. And my body feels incredible. I just started my second mesocycle for the squat and things are, for a lack of a better description, clicking. My body is going through the movement and it feels natural and easy. I’m no longer fighting the weight; I’m one with the weight.

Having something like this happen to me twice in a training life-time is enough. Never again. Don’t learn the hard way like I had to. If you find yourself struggling with a lift, assess your technique and determine what errors might exist. Then delete the hard drive (stop training that lift for a while), then begin putting little pieces of data back over time (train the movement again with perfect technique, increasing the weight little by little over a prolonged period of time). In the process you’ll not only begin to love that lift again, but your body will feel oh so good during and after training.

Heavy Lift Championship

Meet Results

By Eric Todd

Group photo from the Heavy Lift Championship

Group photo from the Heavy Lift Championship

The 2021 Heavy Lift Championship is in the books!  Though not necessarily ideal to have it in November as opposed to May when it has been held for years, it was refreshing to get this one in after having to miss in 2020 due to the Covid pandemic.  Though we lost a couple of our entrants prior to the meet, the remaining lifters had a fantastic day of lifting and catching up.  Quite a few records were broken in the meantime.

It was pretty cool for the meet, but after getting the 2 wood stoves going, it was tolerable. As has been the custom for quite some time, this year’s heavy lift consisted of 3 lifts: the neck lift, the hand and thigh, and the hip lift.  The meet started with the Neck lift.  Unfortunately, Lance opened a bit too high on this event and failed to make a lift.  As Dean is recovering from some health issues, he decided to take on some lighter weights to avoid further issues.  He got a good lift of 100 pounds.  Dave Hahn and I both set a record in this event. Dave DeForest was able to hit a good 475 for a record on 4th attempt.

Dave Hanh with a record attempt on the Hand and Thigh

Dave Hanh with a record attempt on the Hand and Thigh

Next up was the hand and thigh.  For me, this lift is always a fickle mistress. This time, Lance was successful in his attempt at 500 pounds.  Both Daves and I were able to hit a record mark in this discipline. Dave Hahn hit a successful record lift of 500 pounds on a 4th attempt.

Lance Foster completes a successful Hand and Thigh lift

Lance Foster completes a successful Hand and Thigh lift

After we finished the last attempt on the Hand and Thigh, we stopped for a lunch break.  My wonderful wife and daughter brought us out sandwiches, chips, cookies and pastries.  We may have sat too long telling stories, as when it came time to begin the hip lift, we all needed to get warmed up again.

Dave DeForest grinds out a hip lift attempt.

Dave DeForest grinds out a hip lift attempt.

The hip lift was the last lift in an enjoyable day.  All lifters finished with a successful attempt.  Dean got the good lift call on a 300 pound attempt.  Lance was successful in all 3 attempts, ending up with a lift of 800.  Dave Hahn was successful with a 900 pound record attempt.  Dave DeForest got a good attempt at 1100 pound in the meet, and a successful record lift of 1230 on a 4th attempt.  My top lift of the meet was 2000 pounds.

Below are the results of the 2021 Heavy Lift Championships.

Heavy Lift Championship
ET’s House of Iron and Stone
Turney, MO
November 13, 2021

Meet Director: Eric Todd

Meet Announcer: Eric Todd

Score Keeper: Eric and Phoebe Todd

The hostess with the mostest and sandwich maker/deliverer: Jenny “From the Block” Todd

The One Official system was used for all lifts

Officials: Eric Todd, Lance Foster

Loaders:  All lifters

Photographer and award presenter: Phoebe Todd

All lifts are recorded in pounds, as is the total. Adj is the adjusted score after Lynch and Age adjustment.  All records are denoted with an asterisk *

Lifts:

Lifter Age Age Division BW Weight Class Neck Lift Hand and Thigh Hip Lift Total Adj Place
Eric Todd 46 45 261 120 900* 1300* 2000* 4200 3486.89 1
Dave Hahn 84 80 137 65 400* 450* 900* 1750 3221.48 2
Dave DeForest 61 60 193.8 90 450 810* 1100 2360 2617.49 3
Lance Foster 56 55 334 125+ 0 500 800 1300 1049.49 4
Dean Ross 79 75 186 85 100 200 300 600 860.43 5

Lifts outside of the meet for a record:

Dave DeForest-Neck Lift-475, Hip Lift 1230

Dave Hahn-Hand and Thigh-500

 

Hermann Goerner Deadlift Dozen-Plus One

By Bill Clark

Once again, the Gym offered a competition open to the world – and the world wound up being those who work out in Clark’s Gym. Regardless, there was plenty of good lifting.

The easy winner was Nick Frieders. Had Abe Smith been available for the weekend, he and Nick could have squared off fairly even.

The final results are as follow:

Lifter Age Age Division BW Weight Class DEADLIFT, NO THUMB, LEFT DEADLIFT, NO THUMB, RIGHT DEADLIFT, ONE ARM, LEFT DEADLIFT, ONE ARM, Right
Nick Frieders 21 Open 153 70 170* 150 270 300
John Carter 62 60 216 100 150* 180 250* 250
Dave DeForest 61 60 187 85 120* 150 210 220
Tony Hose 52 50 230 105 200 200 260* 250
Bill Clark 89 85 205 95 100* 120 140* 140*
Lifter Jefferson Hack Lift Deadlift-Heels together Deadlift-2 Bars Reeves Deadlift Deadlift-Finger-Index
Nick Frieders 330 325 400 350 280* 145*
John Carter 325* 320* 300 350 240 140*
Dave DeForest 275 315 350* 340 185* 135*
Tony Hose 315 300* 300 340 275 165*
Bill Clark 205 150* 200* 200 0 75*
Lifter Deadlift-Finger-Middle Deadlift-Finger-Ring Deadlift-Finger-Little Total Adj Place
Nick Frieders 210 125 105* 3190 3331.4 1
John Carter 205* 100 100* 2950 3140.39 2
Dave DeForest 155 125* 95* 2645 2994.56 3
Tony Hose 165 115 75* 2960 2781.52 4
Bill Clark 75* 85* 65* 1255 1948.27 5

RECORD LIFTS AFTER THE MEET

Dave DeForest – Neck lift – 400; Deanna lift – 410; Kennedy lift – 420; Peoples lift – 410; 2-hand cheat curl – 135.

OFFICIALS – Bill Clark and Dave DeForest.

All lifts are recorded in pounds, as is the total. Adj is the adjusted score after Lynch and Age adjustment.  All records are denoted with an asterisk *

Heavy Lift Directions

From the North: Take I-35 going south. After you pass by Cameron, take exit 48 which is the Lawson/Cameron exit to HWY 69. Take a left onto 69. Take it 3 or 4 miles take a left onto 292, which is a gravel road. Take it a mile or maybe less to the first right, Deer Creek. Deer Creek winds around a bit, but take it about a mile to the first left, 286th. Take it about a mile to the third house on the right. We will be lifting in the big tin can.

From the South: Take I-35 going north. Take exit 40 to HWY 116. This is the Lathrop/Polo exit. Take a right on 116. Take it about 2 miles until you get to 69 HWY. Take a left. Go about 4 miles north on 69 and take a right on 280th. After about a mile take the first left onto Deer Creek. Take it about a mile going north and take the first right onto 286th. Take it about a mile to the third house on the right. We will be lifting in the big tin can.

If you follow these directions and get lost, by all means, call me. If you try plugging my address into GPS and get lost, you are on your own.

 

See you tomorrow!

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